KC vision without lenses or glasses..
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- eman samir
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KC vision without lenses or glasses..
you know all ,no one can see what i see so i wanna know what do you see when you don't wear your lenses or glasses? just wanna know do you see what i see?
for indeed,it is not the eyes that grow blind but it is the hearts which are within the bosoms that grow blind...
- Andrew MacLean
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eman and desho
This is probably the most intractible question in philosophy: how can we ever know that the experience of others is the same as our experience?
In the end, perhaps the answer is "we can't". So maybe all we can do is fall back on the vocabulary we each use to describe our experience. If we use the same words to describe what we see, perhaps it is safe to conclude that we see the same thing.
Sadly, this also fails; the way we describe what we experience is largely determined by social or cultural influences. In ancient Greece they had no word for "blue", so what colour did they see the sky?
This is an important question, and it will be interesting to see what others make of it!
Oh, and in answer to the question with which you began, "What do I see without my glasses?" Not very much!
Andrew
This is probably the most intractible question in philosophy: how can we ever know that the experience of others is the same as our experience?
In the end, perhaps the answer is "we can't". So maybe all we can do is fall back on the vocabulary we each use to describe our experience. If we use the same words to describe what we see, perhaps it is safe to conclude that we see the same thing.
Sadly, this also fails; the way we describe what we experience is largely determined by social or cultural influences. In ancient Greece they had no word for "blue", so what colour did they see the sky?
This is an important question, and it will be interesting to see what others make of it!
Oh, and in answer to the question with which you began, "What do I see without my glasses?" Not very much!
Andrew
Andrew MacLean
Lol Andrew.. nice response.
I'll try and describe what I see, although it is hard.
I can make out what things are but they aren't clear (there is no definition to anything). The light is all over the place too .. so if I were trying to read this screen i'd be able to, but the letters of each word would be doubled out at a funny angle with light going through them.
I guess you could also say it is like looking through dirty glass or underwater.
That's about the best description I can give of "what I see".. Maybe others have some better explanations!
I'll try and describe what I see, although it is hard.
I can make out what things are but they aren't clear (there is no definition to anything). The light is all over the place too .. so if I were trying to read this screen i'd be able to, but the letters of each word would be doubled out at a funny angle with light going through them.
I guess you could also say it is like looking through dirty glass or underwater.
That's about the best description I can give of "what I see".. Maybe others have some better explanations!
- nicola jayne
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i think this is good for trying to explain how our vision can be / is.
http://drspinello.com/kcvision2/
nicola
http://drspinello.com/kcvision2/
nicola
- eman samir
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- Sweet
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Yes i see that with lights. It is all the cells on your eye!
Without lenses i don't see very much. Everything is all blurry though i can just about make out objects just there are no definate lines as to where they begin and end!!
This is where a post was before on mentioning steps and how difficult we find it trying to find the edges!
I need the whole place to be BRIGHT! But not with lights or candles! I need real outdoor sunlight!!!
Hope that made some sense!
Sweet X x X
Without lenses i don't see very much. Everything is all blurry though i can just about make out objects just there are no definate lines as to where they begin and end!!
This is where a post was before on mentioning steps and how difficult we find it trying to find the edges!
I need the whole place to be BRIGHT! But not with lights or candles! I need real outdoor sunlight!!!
Hope that made some sense!
Sweet X x X
Sweet X x X


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