To get this clear (no pun intended) I understand I don't have a particularly bad case of KC, though I was diagnosed 5 years ago, it's only in the past 9 months it's become more prominent. I've tried RGP lenses in the past and could manage no more than an hour, but I'm back in the loop for another round, and I'm currently surviving with and without glasses.
However, I can't shake off my art school/ philosophical thinking & debating, and I've noticed that I've started to think of certain things (the way I would see, say the christmas lights that are already up and lit, streetlights and TV screens etc) as though I'm seeing them with KC, seeing them in my minds eye (as it were). It's become subconscious now as that is the way I see the world, and I was wondering if it's true of other people as well? I've even woken up (when I have slept well!) and realised the dream that I've just had was in "KC vision"!
I understand that the majority of KC sufferers don't really spend a lot of time seeing things without correction (understandably!), but does anybody else have any experience of this?
Oh, and if I'm just going over old ground, please forgive me!
Dreaming/ Thinking in KC?
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Re: Dreaming/ Thinking in KC?
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I think it's like living in a foreign city. One day you wake up and realize that you have been dreaming, not in English, but in the local language. I always call this my 'arriving' stage.
Maybe very few people can recall the sort of detail you describe of their dreams, but if the sleeping state experience is a allows us a way to manage our waking experience, it is natural that it should reflect in significant ways the experience we actually have while we are awake.
There was a time, following the introduction of early cinema and later with the introduction of television, when people reported that their dreams were in 'black and white'. I don't imagine many people dream in black and white nowadays.
Well observed! maybe there's a project in this for you? If so you bring a unique perspective to your work
Andrew
ps maybe people who get good correction with lenses will spend a bit of time looking through uncorrected corneas: when I am at home I seldom wear my lens.
I think it's like living in a foreign city. One day you wake up and realize that you have been dreaming, not in English, but in the local language. I always call this my 'arriving' stage.
Maybe very few people can recall the sort of detail you describe of their dreams, but if the sleeping state experience is a allows us a way to manage our waking experience, it is natural that it should reflect in significant ways the experience we actually have while we are awake.
There was a time, following the introduction of early cinema and later with the introduction of television, when people reported that their dreams were in 'black and white'. I don't imagine many people dream in black and white nowadays.
Well observed! maybe there's a project in this for you? If so you bring a unique perspective to your work
Andrew
ps maybe people who get good correction with lenses will spend a bit of time looking through uncorrected corneas: when I am at home I seldom wear my lens.
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Re: Dreaming/ Thinking in KC?
Mnay people with KC find it hard to wear lenses beyon 12 hours and the average person is awake for about 16 hours per day.
I knwo when I was wearing RGPs I would easily spend 4 to 8 hours with uncorrected visiosn seeing the world completly differently.
Now I choose to go without lenses every so often si I appreciate how lucky I ma being able to have my vision corrected for all my waking hours.
With uncorrected vision, we do have quite a unique view of Christmas lights and Diwali which can be more colourful view on the world than thise with 'normal' vision.
I knwo when I was wearing RGPs I would easily spend 4 to 8 hours with uncorrected visiosn seeing the world completly differently.
Now I choose to go without lenses every so often si I appreciate how lucky I ma being able to have my vision corrected for all my waking hours.
With uncorrected vision, we do have quite a unique view of Christmas lights and Diwali which can be more colourful view on the world than thise with 'normal' vision.
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Re: Dreaming/ Thinking in KC?
That's an interesting perspective Andrew, I can't say I'd ever thought of having KC as reading a different visual "language", but in actuality it's quite right. KC has obviously developed its own written dialect, abbreviations and terms that are quite alien to people outside of the "community" as it were, almost like soldiers talking to civilians. And so it is with our vision; there is an element of re-learning how to see things and having to accept that what you see in a particular light (uncorrected), isn't actually what is there.
The "arriving stage" point is quite apt (I've been there myself, waking up on the third day and talking to my English room-mates in Italian!) it's as though you've accepted this is how the world is; a form of adaption to the world, or more accurately our perception of it!
I can think of certain dreams I've known of which have been in Black and White, and even of dreams influenced by Blue Peter (obviously from my younger days). It is fascinating how our real lives affect and direct our sub-concious dream state, to the point where I noticed my dreams where occurring in my daily vision.
And as for the time out you both mentioned, I noticed I do a similar thing with headlights while driving at night; switching from full beam to dipped headlights - it makes you appreciate how much you actually can see with the better lights, and helps to stop you taking them for granted.
It's an interesting project if I can get my head around the scale of it... and then find something practical to do with it!!
The "arriving stage" point is quite apt (I've been there myself, waking up on the third day and talking to my English room-mates in Italian!) it's as though you've accepted this is how the world is; a form of adaption to the world, or more accurately our perception of it!
I can think of certain dreams I've known of which have been in Black and White, and even of dreams influenced by Blue Peter (obviously from my younger days). It is fascinating how our real lives affect and direct our sub-concious dream state, to the point where I noticed my dreams where occurring in my daily vision.
And as for the time out you both mentioned, I noticed I do a similar thing with headlights while driving at night; switching from full beam to dipped headlights - it makes you appreciate how much you actually can see with the better lights, and helps to stop you taking them for granted.
It's an interesting project if I can get my head around the scale of it... and then find something practical to do with it!!
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