CXL Club

[rosemary johnson]

Hi Lynn,
Just tried the link in your last message and got 404 error - The document you requested is not found.
SOrry to be dilatory about getting round to trying this - maybe you've moved it meanwhile.
Incidentally, someone on another group list I belong to has just posted the following address for web site design tutorials:
www.opera.com/wsc
where wsc stands for web standards curriculum.
The text of the tutorials is all linked from that page - you can either follow the whole course in order, or just scroll down the contents and dip into any section of particular interest. There's one about "colour", I spotted.
haven't yet had time to have a good explore, but on a quick look it appears interesting.
Rosemary

[Lynn White]

Hi Rosemary!

Oops that should have been http://www.cxlclub.lwvc.co.uk/phpBB3/

Thanks for this link Rosemary - seems most useful and thorough... like you I have only had a quick flit round and really needs time to sit down and work through.

Lynn

[rosemary johnson]

Hi Lynn,
Yup, I've got it!
I've found three topics all with one post in each. WIll try to log in and reply some time.
As a Lynx user, I can't comment onthe colour scheme.
It mostly looks OK to me from a quick scout round. The 2 commetns I have :
- is it really necesary to accept 3 separate cookies before even getting in there, without even logging on? - my other text-only browser has serious problems with cookies, and this one, being a shared facilities, I certainly wouldn't want to leave a username=password cookie lying about on.
- each topic has the info on each (originator, title, replies, visits, new posts, etc well spread out, then the next topic starts right below it, so it took a while to realise which bits went with which topic, ie. where the division between topics was. If you see what I mean. It probably look fine on a GUI screen like windows, just not in Lynx.
Hope that helps.
SHould maybe explain the colour scheme for this lynx is set by the system managers - it isn't quite the same as the one I set up on my own local Lynx, but I can't get that to work down the phone line, grrr! The colours are set according to item status (ordinatry text, bold, page title, link text, etc) and overrides all the colours of the web creators.
Rosemary
PS: BTW been trying to PM you and several seem not to have "gone". Don't know if I'm still not getting through - let me know if so. Sorry if you've been snowed under with the things!

[Lynn White]

Hi Rosemary....

Well I wouldn't know where to start to make things right for a Lynx user as opposed to gui and didn't even realise it was asking to accept cookies.. something for when I have time to look at it.

I am not getting pms through so please email me on lynn.white@lwvc.co.uk

Lynn

[GarethB]

From the forums I am associated with there is only a need to accept cookies if you tell the site you are registering with to remember your log in details.

[James]

... the cookies created by phpBB which keep you authenticated and logged into the board. It also provides functions such as read tracking if they have been enabled by the board owner ...

The password is not saved in the cookie, and in fact is never saved anywhere. Your password is hashed and salted in the database. Also the phpBB3 software had undergone an external security audit before it was released. Its part of the software (exactly the same as this one is) and they can not be removed as the board will fail to work.

In addition, there is a 'delete board cookies' link towards the bottom left of the index page should you wish to delete them easily.

... then the next topic starts right below it, so it took a while to realise which bits went with which topic, ie. where the division between topics was ...

Would a wider dividing line help?

[rosemary johnson]

having the info for one topic more closely grouped, then more of a space before the next topic starts would definitely help.
I got asked to accept a cookie three times before I even got into the page (I didn't try what happened if I said "n"o or ne"v"er - because usually you don't get anywhere). I didn't try to sign on, just read what i could as a visitor.
Lynx will ask you whether you wnat to accept a cookie for each new site you visit, and you can either say Y or N to each one, in which case you will be asked again for each one it tries to give you, or else All or Never, in which case it will either accept or reject all from that site and not ask again until you get to a new site. Well, I think the system managers can change that for the installation, but that is how it is set on this one.
In general, if yousay neVer, the sites don't work.
y other browser will "accept" them all, but just pops the "code" up on the screen and doesn't store anything, so the site can't then find it again - and in general, once any site has caused a cookie to pop up on screen, it then doesn't work properly.
at least, that's my experience! But as it's a shared browser service, not a personal one, I never ask sites to "remember me" anyway.
Hope this makes sense!
Rosemary

[James]

If you never save passwords, then there is not a problem accepting any cookie that the forum wants to put on your browser. The cookies are used even if you are a visitor. Not for 'me' to get information from 'you' but to let the software work. phpBB2 (the earlier release) had fewer cookies, but had far less features. Its not supported any more.

I will try and look at separating the topics a bit. Shouldn't be too hard (I hope LOL )

[rosemary johnson]

Yeah, that's what i've discovered - if you're using a browser that doesn't handle cookies the way it expects, all too many sites don't work at all.
Like the one I have that will run on my own PC here, rather than having to telnet into the shared one. Or a previous lynx service I used to use where the system madmins had disabled cookies for anyone using the service, centrally. All to omany web sites were totally inaccessible.
I do appreciate if you're using someone else's software package, there's not too much you can do about it!
Rosemary

[James]

I have tried various things, but the only one that works consistently is increasing the space below the text in each 'cell'

Please have a look at my test forum to see if its an improvement http://hi.mronion.me.uk/